[Summit] societal responsibilties and break-ins

[Bresler E]

I agree the system could offer better services, but I do not believe even
the perfect environment would end these break-in problems. or many others,
as some people seem to...

Greg, if you think that George Bush, with all the assets and power he has,
is not satisfied enough to not be violent, why do you think a burglar or a
terrorist, will stop their violence when they get what they claim to want???

I don't know what contact some folks have had with people in "need of
services" from "the system", but those of us with experience-  know that
there is always the percentage who refuse assistance, or to even acknowledge
there is a problem, with drugs or what ever their issue. (I'm talking REAL
problems, not just the right to be different) Or for whom the problem IS
that nothing will EVER be good enough - everything is always someone else's
fault.
It is heart breaking to be the friend or relative or even the professional
trying to help such people; it is NOT paranoia to be concerned what these
individuals will do with their altered ideas of what are their "rights",
some of which are way outside almost anyone's idea of acceptable civilized
behavior, not to mention the law.

Remember the guy the arrested last winter for a string of break ins? The one
who robbed the front of the house while the owners were having a barbecue in
the back? Who gave a police man a tour of the neighborhood showing off all
the dozen plus houses he robbed? Who said if he could get in it was our
problem?  You think he wants to change?.

I have said enough. I wasn't trying to start a war or a police state or an
argument.  I just wanted to get some brain storming going- on how we can
stop this string of robberies.

But because of past experience, I find the "everyone is good at heart"
attitude to be personally offensive and insulting.  A nice idea but NOT to
be depended upon

And I am very sorry to hear the car break in situation is actually so bad
that some have come to feel it is worth while to adopt the tactic of NOT
locking their cars to save window glass!

Elianna



On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com> wrote:

> The most effective way to stop crime is to End Poverty.  You sound like
> George Bush, he set up a Department of Homeland Insecurity to make us feel
> paranoid so we would feel okay about torture and starting wars.  Unless we
> actually address the real issues, poverty, lack of medical care for
> mentally
> ill people, all the fortresses in the world are unlikely to work.  Greg
> Gerritt
>
>
> on 1/5/09 7:39 PM, mwelch16 at cox.net at mwelch16 at cox.net wrote:
>
> > Jeff-  If you haven't tried Chez Pascal or Pizzico on Hope St, they are
> both
> > awesome places to eat.  My wife and I go to both rather often.  Actually,
> Chez
> > Pascal was one of our first 'dates'.
> >
> > Greg-  Do you really think that the most effective way to keep our homes
> and
> > cars safe is to simply "end poverty"?  As long as there are such things
> as
> > drugs and mental illness, people will break into cars and homes.
>  Although
> > primary prevention is an ideal solution, it only works when people are
> willing
> > to follow rules.  Although I'm unlikely to set up a sting operation, I
> keep
> > nothing of value in my car, my driveway and yard have motion activated
> lights,
> > and I have two territorial german shepherds.  I don't think any of our
> > neighbors should have to live in fear of a break-in because nobody has
> offered
> > to employ the local junkies.
> > Matthew Welch
> > Colonial Rd
> >
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