[Summit] It's a crime!

Jeffrey Cavanaugh jeff at cavanaugh.org
Mon Nov 5 17:23:53 UTC 2012


Seriously, the politics is a side conversation.  A request to move it
offline was all that was needed, not rudeness.

As for the original issue, I'm really not interested in yet another
solution that involves going to more meetings or anyone with the rank of
"captain" who isn't a police officer, in charge of a ship or in the
military.  I will keep an eye on my neighbor's property, report suspicious
things, continue to monitor this discussion group for tips and advice on
preventing crime (even though most of the things that people beat to death
her do not interest me any more than the political thread I participated in
interests you - but I haven't  called it "drivel").  Beyond that, I expect
the police to do better.  Everything I've read seems to point towards this
strategy of analyzing data and predicting where trouble is brewing and
deploying police presence to the right locations.  It is very difficult to
do anything after the fact and even if you catch the criminal they are
likely to go right back to crime when let out of jail (if they even do
time).  So I think we need the police to do the former.

Sorry, but even as I write this I find myself resenting the unregulated,
automobile worshiping world idealized by conservatives that has built
sprawling suburbs  where I do not wish to live but left me with bad schools
and crime in the neglected cities where I do wish to live.

Also, it is not unreasonable to ask what security measures the person had
and perhaps how they were circumvented.  That's how we learn.

I liked it better when were were beating the dead recycling bin horse!

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:43 AM, JaNean Fisher <jfchocomom77 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Seriously, only on the East Side could someone let everyone know that they
> had a break-in  to make others
> aware,and then be condemned for having security lights, not having an
> alarm, blame the police for not doing
> their job, change the entire thread of conversation to a political rant
> (as though we haven't
> already listened to your drivel for the last 2 months!) as if MItt/O were
> personally responsible.
>
> Focus and respond responsibly and keep your political opinions to
> yourself! I care about a neighbor
> experiencing a problem and if I can help, I will. I don't care to know
> what you think about the election,
>
> JaNean
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> Isn't Mitt saying he won't raise taxes on the middle class as well?  It's
>>> hard to keep track of what Mitt is saying.  It's not a choice between
>>> being
>>> fiscally conservative and socially just, the republicans are NOT the
>>> party
>>> of fiscal conservatism.  They are the party of small government.  Since
>>> Gingrich shut down the government during the Clinton years, republicans
>>> have sought to starve the government of funds.  They are somewhat good at
>>> cutting taxes but not so good at cutting spending, particularly military
>>> spending.  GW Bush cut taxes, did nothing to cut spending, and put 2 wars
>>> on the credit card.  Reagan blew up the deficit as well, BTW.  How can
>>> anyone think republicans are a fiscally conservative party?  Where is the
>>> evidence of that?
>>>
>>
>> True; I guess "fiscal conservatism" is in the eye of the beholder: "Hey,
>> if we cut all these social programs for those 47% of freeloading, thieving,
>> victimized layabouts, then we're being fiscally conservative!"
>>
>> What is, perhaps, most egregious--and ironic--in all this is that Mitt
>> Romney apparently paid nearly zero income taxes between 1996 and 2009 (the
>> year before the 2010 tax return he actually made public):
>>
>> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-29/romney-avoids-taxes-via-loophole-cutting-mormon-donations.html
>>
>> So Mr Romney, it turns out, is one of the 47%. Interesting.
>>
>> Emlyn
>>
>>
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