[Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 91, Issue 24
Craig Borges
craigborges at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 7 17:38:53 UTC 2012
There are people lacking every form of ID - the homeless for example. They should have the right to vote, too.
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On Oct 7, 2012, at 12:17 PM, summit-request at sna.providence.ri.us wrote:
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> 1. Re: voter ID law (Elizabeth Cameron)
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> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 12:13:39 -0400
> From: Elizabeth Cameron <elizabethcameron at cox.net>
> To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
> Subject: Re: [Summit] voter ID law
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> I second Gloria's comments. I, too, have known Harold Metts for a long
> time and know he's a good and honest man, but it goes beyond that. The
> end to any discussion or disagreement now seems to be to call someone a
> racist.
>
> Further, anyone who thinks voter fraud is some Republican or
> already-elected politician conspiracy is quite naive. And why should we
> not believe Anastasia? If long-time politicians are protecting their
> turfs, then wouldn't you want the newcomers to know that all the votes
> were fair? Certainly, many local elections in RI hinge on just a handful
> of votes or less.
>
> I love the idea of photo id at the polls. Not only would everyone have a
> chance to get a photo, with no excuses (though if they can't get to the
> old photo id places, how do they get to the polls?), we would also have
> a photo of the person perpetrating fraud
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> On 10/6/2012 1:27 PM, Gloria L Johnson wrote:
>> I have known Mr. Metts for almost 30 years and I cannot tell how offensive it is to call him a racist. I am astounded by that statement! It also amazes me that just because you disagree with someone that you resort to name calling.
>>
>> And let me get this straight, so if we are Democrats we all have to believe and agree on the same thing? And if not, risk being labeled some offensive thing?
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> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:17:10 -0400
> From: Tara AOL <Tlpinsky at aol.com>
> To: Hope for Health <libertyliterary at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Summit at sna.providence.ri.us" <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] voter ID law
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> This questions about obtaining a voter ID is to simply go to the SOS.ri.gov site. To make it easier for all I have copied it below. So it's fairly easy to obtain one.
>
> The voter ID lists are only purged every 10 years, even if I provided a stack of return to sender letters from the PO, nothing happens for 10 years.
>
> John Smith resides at 123 Main St but how many other people have lived at 123 Main St in the past ten years. I have a friend who knows a woman who moved to Mass years ago but still crosses into RI to vote in our elections. There is fraud, it may not be in the East Side but I can tell you in happens in other parts of the city. Ever heard of poll checkers for candidates. I'm not accusing any party or candidate but they know who has and hasn't voted.
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> Sincerely,
> Tara Pinsky
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> You will not need a Voter ID card if you already have a valid and current Photo ID. If you need a Voter ID, we will provide you with a free one. You must provide one of these types of current and valid IDs:.
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> Employee ID card;
> ID card provided by a commercial establishment;
> Credit or debit card;
> Military ID card;
> Student ID card;
> Health club ID card;
> Insurance plan ID card;
> Public housing ID card;
> If you don?t have one of those types of current and valid IDs, you must bring one of the following documents. It must include your name and be dated since November 2, 2010, unless the document is intended to be of a permanent nature such as a pardon or discharge:
> Utility bill;
> Bank statement;
> Government paycheck;
> Document issued by a government agency;
> Official elections document issued by a government agency, dated for the election in which the registered voter is providing it as proof of identity;
> Voter notification issued by a governmental agency;
> Public housing ID card issued by a governmental agency;
> Lease or rental statement or agreement issued by a governmental agency;
> Student ID card issued by a governmental institution/agency or non-governmental institution/agency;
> Tuition statement or bill issued by a governmental agency;
> Insurance plan card or drug discount card issued by a government agency;
> Discharge certificates, pardons, or other official documents issued to the registered voter by a governmental agency in connection with the resolution of a criminal case, indictment, sentence or other matter;
> Public transit authority senior citizen and disabled discount ID card issued by a governmental agency;
> ID documents issued by governmental disability agencies;
> ID documents issued by homeless shelters and other temporary or transitional facilities;
> Drug prescription issued by a government doctor or other governmental health care provider;
> Property tax statement issued by a governmental agency;
> Vehicle registration issued by a governmental agency; or
> Vehicle certificate of ownership issued by a governmental agency
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> On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Hope for Health <libertyliterary at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>
>> The problem is - what identification do you present in order to get an ID card?
>> (This is the major reason why I oppose the Voter ID legislation).
>>
>> I suspect that Greg's purple thumb plan might be the best of the options!
>> At least it would keep folks from voting twice. (Along with the fact that
>> only one person can vote as John Smith at such and such an address)
>>
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Liberty G
>>
>> --- On Sun, 10/7/12, Kathy Rourke <kathy_rourke at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> From: Kathy Rourke <kathy_rourke at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Summit] voter ID law
>> To: jsb at cs.brown.edu, Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 8:43 AM
>>
>> I am with you 100% John- and I love your idea of getting your picture ID at polling places!
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>>
>> On 10/06/12, John Bazik<jsb at cs.brown.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, I think it's voter suppression. The evidence for in-person voter
>> fraud is always anecdotal. But I understand that something like 11%
>> of registered voters lack a government-issued picture id.
>>
>> As I wrote to Gordon, who co-sponsored the Voter Id bill, I'd feel a lot
>> better about the law if picture ids were to be issued at all polling
>> places and a marketing campaign encouraged voting: "Vote and get a
>> free id!"
>>
>> John
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