[Summit] Snow Removal On Fourth Street
Sam Grabelle
sgrabelle at verizon.net
Sat Mar 14 00:12:16 UTC 2015
Monica,
You rock! We are very lucky to have you in our community.
Sam
Ms. Sam Grabelle, MSW
61 8th St.
Providence, RI 02906
(401) 374-8068
www.samgrabelle.com
sgrabelle at verizon.net
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From: Summit [mailto:summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us] On Behalf Of
Monica Anderson
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 2:48 PM
To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
Subject: [Summit] Snow Removal On Fourth Street
Dear Mona and Neighbors
When I saw your post, I asked my Facilities Director about the clearing of
Fourth Street. He walked down and found that the sidewalk had not been
cleared. I apologize for this oversight. Our crew has worked hard all
winter to clear lots and sidewalks which abut our properties, but
unfortunetly missed this one.
I'm glad that the issue was mentioned on this forum so that we have the
opportunity to fix it. In the future if there is a problem and a quicker
resolution is needed, please include a call to The Neighborhood Hotline at
(401)-793-4040 or send me an email at TMHNeighbors at lifespan.org. I check the
hotline several times a day, whereas I check the List Serve sporadically.
The hotline has been in place for 10 years, and serves as a conduit for
complaints or concerns. Calls are generally answered within a minimum of 48
hours.
Again, I apologize for our oversight on Fourth, it wasn't intentional and
will be addressed.
Sincerely,
Monica Anderson
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5. Re: Icy sidewalks (John Bazik)
6. Hiring a contractor to clear the entire block's sidewalk
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 13:02:58 -0400
From: "Delgado, Mona Moller" <mona_delgado at brown.edu>
To: Thomas Schmeling <thomas.a.schmeling at gmail.com>
Cc: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us"
<summit at sna.providence.ri.us>,
Sheila Judkins <shejudkins at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Icy sidewalks
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Miriam never shovels the sidewalk for their building on the south side of
lower 4th Street.
Mona
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Thomas Schmeling
<thomas.a.schmeling at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Speaking for the shoveling brigade, I?m sorry to say that we just don?t
have > the capacity to do what Sheila suggests. There are too few of us
and too > many houses in the neighborhood for us to check them all, and
our current 6 > volunteers (who have all worked very hard this winter!)
could not possibly > do much more even if asked.
>
> I feel fortunate. I think that every house on our block except one has
been > regularly shoveled this winter. There seems to be a kind of tipping
point > where, if enough get shoveled, the laggards come on board too. I
would > suggest working to help your own block work like that.
If a neighbor doesn?t
> shovel, ask why not. Talk to the neighbors who do shovel to see if you
can > work together to get the others to join you. I also suspect that
people will > respond better to a neighbor than to a visit from a
stranger.
>
> As for multi-unit buildings where the landlord is not present, I have
zero > hesitation in reporting them to the city.
>
> Tom
>
> On Mar 11, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Sheila Judkins <shejudkins at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Perhaps the volunteer shovel committee could leave a note on houses
asking > if they needed help clearing the walkways? That would at least
remind > people to do it and also offer help if they actually need it.
>
>
>
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Italian Studies/Brown University
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 13:51:21 -0400
From: Jeffrey Cavanaugh <jeff at cavanaugh.org>
To: Aaron Smuts <asmuts at gmail.com>
Cc: Summit Neighborhood <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Icy sidewalks
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I can imagine hiring reliable snow removal people is a little challenging
for the average homeowner as it's such an inconsistent demand in this area
(many lame winters). Still, it is the homeowner's responsibility (I think)
to clear the adjacent sidewalk all the way around. I personally think we
can all be understanding of less than perfect snow removal. On the shady
sides of the street there is more re-freezing, etc. The corners are
tough. But if a sidewalk is not shoveled at all, particularly in a winter
like this, we are all stuck with this problem for weeks.
I am particularly frustrated by the million dollar plus mini estates in
the neighborhood where the property occupies multiple lots and not all the
sidewalk is cleared. These properties typically employ landscapers and
others and it should not be a problem to negotiate snow clearing, and cost
should not be an object.
Speaking of homeowner responsibility, who is responsible in absentee
rentals? I know landlords put clauses in leases requiring tenants to
shovel, but is that legal? If someone is injured on an un-shoveled
sidewalk, is there liability for the tenant? The absentee landlord? The
live-in homeowner? How would liability be shared by tenants?
The thing about excuses, without judging any one excuse, is a high
percentage of people can come up with some pretty solid sounding excuses if
sufficiently motivated. None of us is perfect, and no one is judging an
individual, but yes, I would expect the vast majority of people to be able
to handle at least minimal execution of this civic duty.
If hiring snow removal folks is so hard, maybe after 36 hours the city
could start clearing sidewalks and bill the homeowner.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Aaron Smuts <asmuts at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Note: I didn't start this rant. I never thought that seconding a >
complaint on a message board would have any effect on anyone's > behavior.
I certainly never appealed to the law. (What we are legally > required
today is beside the point and of dubious
authority.) And I
> never pointed any fingers and demanded excuses. That's not my role in >
the world.
>
> Hence, I really don't care to address the validity of your excuse. No >
one was pointing at you. Besides, it's just not relevant to the > general
problem.
>
> Back to the issue: It's simply preposterous that the entire city is >
75% filled with frail elderly people with back problems and pregnant >
women living alone. So what accounts for all the unshoveled snow?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Sheila Judkins <shejudkins at gmail.com> >
wrote:
> > Aaron,
> > I normally stay as far away from these email chain rants as possible
but > in this case I feel the need to address your supposition.
> > Two years ago I hired a different snow remover who left beer cans in
my > driveway, hit the side of my house and never showed up again which
left me > pregnant shoveling all last season with my toddler in a
stroller.
> >
> > This year very early in the season i asked THIS list for snow removal
> recommendations and didn't receive a single response.
> >
> > I'm not saying that there is only one option, just that we might make
> more progress with snow removal by offering help to our neighbors than to
> sit behind a computer and accuse people of being lazy.
> >
> > Yes I know snow removal is the law but in the depths of winter when >
babysitters can't drive on the road, ask me if I am going to leave my kids
> unattended or make sure my sidewalk is clear and there answer is clear.
> >
> > Nobody is beyond reproach but typically people respond better to >
kindness than rudeness.
> >
> > Sheila
> >
> > On Mar 11, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Aaron Smuts <asmuts at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > What we've learned so far:
> >
> > There is only one snow shoveler for hire in RI and he only works odd
> hours.
> >
> > Those with snow blowers should work for their lazy neighbors for free.
> >
> > There is no point shoveling the sidewalks on part of a street unless
> > the entire street is shoveled.
> >
> > And everyone is beyond reproach, except for us judgmental types.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:45 PM, David Schrag <david at schrag.net>
wrote:
> >> We've done reasonably well this winter and have been helped out by a
> >> generous anonymous neighbor with a snowblower.
(Note to snowblower
> owners:
> >> it would be awesome if you could clear your entire block and not just
> your > >> own sidewalk.) > >> > >> That being said, the sidewalk on our
block ends at our house and > pedestrians > >> have to walk in the street
for the remaining
25 yards or so until they
> get
> >> to the corner, no matter the season. So sometimes I ask myself,
what's > the > >> point?
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Ethan Gyles <egrande25 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Judgments and opinions aside, clearing your sidewalk after a storm
is > *the > >>> law*. The city has never really enforced this law with
fines, as it is > >>> authorized to do. The law is intended to protect
pedestrians who are > forced > >>> to walk in the narrowed street and put
themselves at risk when the > sidewalks > >>> aren't passable. Homeowners
and businesses alike are culprits, as is > the > >>> city itself in the
cases of sidewalks that pass through public > property.
> >>> This problem has been particularly egregious on the main
thoroughfares > like > >>> North Main this winter, where pedestrians are
common and traffic > speeds are > >>> high. Thankfully no one (that I'm
aware
of) has been clipped by a
> passing
> >>> car and hurt or killed this year.
> >>>
> >>> Ethan
> >>> Hillside Ave.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Sheila Judkins <shejudkins at gmail.com> > >>> To: Aaron Smuts
<asmuts at gmail.com> > >>> Cc: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us"
<summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 1:49 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Summit]
Icy sidewalks > >>> > >>> Hi! I'm just speaking for myself but it's been
incredibly hard to keep > our > >>> sidewalk clear. My husband travels a
lot and I have two kids under > 5. We > >>> hired someone to come do our
driveway who would come at 11pm or not at > all > >>> and rightly so as
he would prioritize the houses of those in the > medical > >>> field. Or
he would come and not do my sidewalk.
> >>> When I was able to get outside and shovel and put salt down, I came
> back > >>> inside to my one year old eating the rock salt from the
floor.
> >>> I tried taking the kids outside while I shoveled but in the cold,
the > kids > >>> wouldn't stay out long enough for me to shovel it all.
> >>> SO that being said, I know it's easy to get frustrated with
neighbors > but > >>> I would just ask that we not judge each other too
harshly as I am > finding > >>> that there is a lot of anger coming into
this forum. It's probably > also not > >>> that motivating for anyone who
is actually lazy to get an email like > this > >>> and be motivated to
shovel or ice.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps the volunteer shovel committee could leave a note on houses
> asking > >>> if they needed help clearing the walkways? That would at
least remind > >>> people to do it and also offer help if they actually
need it.
> >>>
> >>> plz xcuse typos
> >>> Sheila - colonial road
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 1:32 PM, Aaron Smuts <asmuts at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I agree. The weather has been nice for days but the sidewalks are >
>>> still covered in ice. And most of the corners are blocked. What's >
>>> with this place?
> >>>
> >>> How hard is it to clear a sidewalk? Sure there are some legitimate
> >>> excuses, but it just can't be that 75% of the people here are too >
>>> frail to shovel snow once a week during the month of February. Is >
>>> there some epidemic of extreme weakness upon us?
> >>>
> >>> There is no reason why we should be stuck inside for two months
every > >>> winter. Is it simple laziness, rudeness, or both?
> >>>
> >>> It's not just the east side that's a problem. This is a city wide >
>>> issue. From what I've seen, the west side of town is probably worse.
> >>>
> >>> Is this a regional thing? Or is it a RI thing, something like the
way > >>> people refuse to stop at stop signs?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Andria Tieman
<ladyandria at gmail.com> > >>>> wrote:
> >>>> I am shocked that after so many days of melting, there are still
many > >>>> sidewalks that are covered in slippery and dangerous ice. It
never > fails > >>>> to > >>>> blow my mind the lack of regard that
people show for their neighbors.
> >>>>
> >>>> I know this winter has been
particularly hard, and I commend SNA for > >>>> organizing shoveling
volunteers, but it still seems like a number of > >>>> people > >>>> just
don't care about anyone but themselves.
> >>>>
> >>>> /end soapbox
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Andria
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:03:41 -0400
From: Theresa Mathiesen <elvamath at gmail.com>
To: "Delgado, Mona Moller" <mona_delgado at brown.edu>
Cc: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us"
<summit at sna.providence.ri.us>,
Sheila Judkins <shejudkins at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Icy sidewalks
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Mona, I suggest you contact Monica Anderson about this. She's the
Community Liaison for Miriam Hospital. This is the kind of thing she and
the hospital want to know about.
<MAnderson5 at lifespan.org>
Sincerely,
Elva Mathiesen
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Delgado, Mona Moller <
mona_delgado at brown.edu>
wrote:
> Miriam never shovels the sidewalk for their building on the south side
> of lower 4th Street.
>
> Mona
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Thomas Schmeling >
<thomas.a.schmeling at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Speaking for the shoveling brigade, I?m sorry to say that we just
don?t > have > > the capacity to do what Sheila suggests. There are too
few of us and too > > many houses in the neighborhood for us to check them
all, and our > current 6 > > volunteers (who have all worked very hard
this
winter!) could not
> possibly
> > do much more even if asked.
> >
> > I feel fortunate. I think that every house on our block except one has
> been > > regularly shoveled this winter. There seems to be a kind of
tipping point > > where, if enough get shoveled, the laggards come on
board too. I would > > suggest working to help your own block work like
that. If a neighbor > doesn?t > > shovel, ask why not. Talk to the
neighbors who do shovel to see if you > can > > work together to get the
others to join you. I also suspect that people > will > > respond better
to a neighbor than to a visit from a stranger.
> >
> > As for multi-unit buildings where the landlord is not present, I have
> zero > > hesitation in reporting them to the city.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Mar 11, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Sheila Judkins <shejudkins at gmail.com> >
wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps the volunteer shovel committee could leave a note on houses >
asking > > if they needed help clearing the walkways? That would at least
remind > > people to do it and also offer help if they actually need it.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > SNA Website: http://sna.providence.ri.us/ > > > > -- > Mona
Delgado > Academic Department Manager > Italian Studies/Brown University
> 190 Hope Street/Box 1942, Providence, RI 02912 > (401) 863-1561 > >
http://www.brown.edu/academics/italian-studies/
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:05:30 -0400
From: Theresa Mathiesen <elvamath at gmail.com>
To: Neighborhood Association <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: [Summit] Recommendations for plumbers?
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Hello, neighbors,
We need a plumber who can also deal with gas/hot water systems. Any
suggestions out there?
Thank you!
Elva Mathiesen
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 23:33:44 -0400
From: John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com>
To: Summit Neighborhood <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Icy sidewalks
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As a frequent pedestrian, and particularly this winter, when snow has
encroached on both roadways and walkways, I?ve thought a lot about this.
Imagine what our roads would look like if similar rules applied. If each
homeowner was responsible for clearing the roadway in front of their
house, we?d all be housebound for the duration. Yet incredibly, that?s how
pedestrian ways are supposed to be cleared. It?s a system that requires
100% participation. If even one person on your block fails to clear their
walk, you are forced to venture into the street - which has been reduced to
a single car width. Yet most people just take to the street anyway, because
the street has been cleared in order to make it passible. Sidewalks are
cleared in the same way that school children do homework - it?s required,
but it?s not always completed and it?s not always done right (sidewalks
?cleared? with no connection to adjoining streets or properties).
As some snow blowing Samaritans have understood, it makes sense to clear a
continuous length of sidewalk, irrespective of property lines. It makes
sense both for those clearing the snow and for those venturing into it. So
I wonder if it wouldn?t make sense for neighbors, blocks, even whole
neighborhoods to pool resources and hire a contractor to clear sidewalks,
at a ?bulk? rate. No driveways, no walks, no steps - just sidewalks. I
expect it would be possible to get an attractive bid that, divided among
those willing to participate, would be a net savings. There would be some
free riders, of course, but at least their walks would be clear.
With about 150ft of sidewalk myself (I?m on a corner), and just a shovel,
I?d happily participate.
John
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 23:43:47 -0400
From: Paul Wilde <zenyente at gmail.com>
To: John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com>
Cc: Summit Neighborhood <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: [Summit] Hiring a contractor to clear the entire block's
sidewalk
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John, et al,
I think this is a great idea. It will also get neighbors more connected.
Paul
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 04:58:24 -0400
From: Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
To: John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com>,
Summit Neighborhood
<summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Icy sidewalks
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Great idea. greg
On 3/12/15, 11:33 PM, "John Bazik" <jbazik at gmail.com>
wrote:
>As a frequent pedestrian, and particularly this winter, when snow has
>encroached on both roadways and walkways, I?ve thought a lot about this.
>Imagine what our roads would look like if similar rules applied. If each
>homeowner was responsible for clearing the roadway in front of their
>house, we?d all be housebound for the duration. Yet incredibly, that?s
>how pedestrian ways are supposed to be cleared. It?s a system that
>requires 100% participation. If even one person on your block fails to
>clear their walk, you are forced to venture into the street - which has
>been reduced to a single car width. Yet most people just take to the
>street anyway, because the street has been cleared in order to make it
>passible. Sidewalks are cleared in the same way that school children do
>homework - it?s required, but it?s not always completed and it?s not
>always done right (sidewalks ?cleared? with no connection to adjoining
>streets or properties).
>
>As some snow blowing Samaritans have understood, it makes sense to clear
>a continuous length of sidewalk, irrespective of property lines. It
>makes sense both for those clearing the snow and for those venturing into
>it. So I wonder if it wouldn?t make sense for neighbors, blocks, even
>whole neighborhoods to pool resources and hire a contractor to clear
>sidewalks, at a ?bulk? rate. No driveways, no walks, no steps - just
>sidewalks. I expect it would be possible to get an attractive bid that,
>divided among those willing to participate, would be a net savings.
>There would be some free riders, of course, but at least their walks
>would be clear.
>
>With about 150ft of sidewalk myself (I?m on a corner), and just a shovel,
>I?d happily participate.
>
>John
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:12:06 -0400
From: Breslers <breslerfamily at gmail.com>
To: Summit Neighborhood <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Icy sidewalks
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yes!
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
wrote:
> Great idea. greg
>
> On 3/12/15, 11:33 PM, "John Bazik" <jbazik at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> >As a frequent pedestrian, and particularly this
winter, when snow has
> >encroached on both roadways and walkways, I?ve
thought a lot about this.
> >Imagine what our roads would look like if similar
rules applied. If each
> >homeowner was responsible for clearing the roadway
in front of their
> >house, we?d all be housebound for the
duration. Yet incredibly, that?s
> >how pedestrian ways are supposed to be
cleared. It?s a system that
> >requires 100% participation. If even one
person on your block fails to
> >clear their walk, you are forced to venture into
the street - which has
> >been reduced to a single car width. Yet most
people just take to the
> >street anyway, because the street has been cleared
in order to make it
> >passible. Sidewalks are cleared in the same
way that school children do
> >homework - it?s required, but it?s not always
completed and it?s not
> >always done right (sidewalks ?cleared? with no
connection to adjoining
> >streets or properties).
> >
> >As some snow blowing Samaritans have understood, it
makes sense to clear
> >a continuous length of sidewalk, irrespective of
property lines. It
> >makes sense both for those clearing the snow and
for those venturing into
> >it. So I wonder if it wouldn?t make sense for
neighbors, blocks, even
> >whole neighborhoods to pool resources and hire a
contractor to clear
> >sidewalks, at a ?bulk? rate. No driveways, no
walks, no steps - just
> >sidewalks. I expect it would be possible to
get an attractive bid that,
> >divided among those willing to participate, would
be a net savings.
> >There would be some free riders, of course, but at
least their walks
> >would be clear.
> >
> >With about 150ft of sidewalk myself (I?m on a
corner), and just a shovel,
> >I?d happily participate.
> >
> >John
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 14:16:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kristen Peterson <kkp401 at yahoo.com>
To: Neighborhood Association <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: [Summit] Car stolen on Sarah Street
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FYI.? On Tuesday night/Wednesday morning my neighbor's car
was stolen from their driveway on Sarah Street.? It was a
gray Honda, small SUV, about 5 - 10 years old (I think).???
KristieSarah Street
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:05
PM, Theresa Mathiesen <elvamath at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello, neighbors,
We need a plumber who can also deal with gas/hot water
systems.? Any suggestions out there?
Thank you!
Elva Mathiesen
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:14:45 -0400
From: e h <equityhere at gmail.com>
To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
Subject: [Summit] Sidewalks
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Sidewalks now are really tough, I agree! For people
with disabilities it's
just a wait until the snow really melts; then we can get out
again.
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:19:09 -0400
From: e h <equityhere at gmail.com>
To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
Subject: [Summit] Fox News
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It was really disappointing news that the former rep for SNA
is guilty of
betraying trust!!! Why does this seem to
happen so often in RI? All
people want is a voice and to feel like they have a good
person
representing them!!!
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:39:46 -0400
From: Douglas Itkin <douglas.itkin at gmail.com>
To: e h <equityhere at gmail.com>
Cc: Summit Neighborhood <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Sidewalks
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curb pickup: 170Ninth st. 2 bags of salt and one of
sand
If anyone still has thick ice still, I've put on the curb,
feel free to
take it and use it.
It is supposed to be 40 degrees and raining on Sat., so
maybe the ice will
watch away soon enough.
FYI, Sand and salt were cheap last time I was in Home Depot
so I stocked
up, now don't need it and still have an extra bag, plus our
sidewalk are
clear and dry on 9th st. now.
Doug
email: douglas.itkin at gmail.com
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 12:14 PM, e h <equityhere at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Sidewalks now are really tough, I agree! For
people with disabilities
> it's just a wait until the snow really melts; then we
can get out again.
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 16:46:40 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ethan Gyles <egrande25 at yahoo.com>
To: e h <equityhere at gmail.com>,
"summit at sna.providence.ri.us"
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Toward that point, I'd encourage everyone to turn these
disturbing events?into?an opportunity and vocally?support?RI
House Bill 5374 and RI Senate Bill 0056. These are companion
ethics reform bills, supported by Common Cause RI and other
good government advocates. Aaron Regunberg is a co-sponsor
of 5374. You can read the text of the bills by punching in
their numbers here: http://status.rilin.state.ri.us/. Basically, if the
bills pass, they would put a question out to the voting
public on the ballot and ask whether we want the state
constitution to be amended such that the state Ethics
Commission has full jurisdiction over the General Assembly
(it currently has limited jurisdiction). I believe this
ballot question would pass overwhelmingly. But for now, the
bills have been referred to committee. My belief is that the
bills will?languish in committee?and will never make it to a
floor vote unless we bring lots of public pressure. E-mails
and calls to our legislators, and also to?House and Senate
leadership and committee members,?may make a real impact
here.?Legislator contact info for Senate is
here:?http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/Email/SenEmailListDistrict.aspLegis
lator
contact info for House is here:
http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/Email/RepEmailListDistrict.asp?EthanHills
ide
Ave.
From: e h <equityhere at gmail.com>
To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:19 PM
Subject: [Summit] Fox News
It was really disappointing news that the former rep for SNA
is guilty of betraying trust!!! ? Why does this seem to
happen so often in RI?? All people want is a voice and to
feel like they have a good person representing them!!!
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