[Summit] Plastic Bags

Wed Mar 28 01:47:07 UTC 2018

Again, the issue is that this law passes the cost to the consumer, instead
of to the business owners, upon whom the responsibility should fall.

Side note: everyone seems to be thinking only of plastic carry-out bags,
and not about plastic produce bags, which are as much of if not more of a
problem. It's very easy to stuff ten environmentally-devastating plastic
produce bags into a single reusable carry-out bag.

-Chris

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
wrote:

> Most of the supermarkets that are low price leaders already charge for
> bags.  The goal is to massively reduce plastic.  And put a fee on polluting
> .  Plus, I thijnk the low income issue is not factualy based.  Countries
> much poorer than the USA, (Kenya) banned plastic bags.  5 other towns in RI
> already have banned bags. Cities across America have banned bagss.  The
> outcry was looud about the poor each time, but the adverse affecdts are
> just not happening.  People still find a cheap way to carry things.  Most
> homeless people carry a backpack or somehting.  They can store durable
> plastic bags that they buy for 10 cents in the backpack for when they need
> them.
>
> The only people who  this will actually adversely affect are those with
> zero cash income.  Which means SNAP so they can eat and nothing else.  That
> is rather unusual in the USA.  People with nothing have to be a bit
> frugal.  They can keep a bag.  Women with children carry rather large
> purses or some other bag that can store a bag or two just like the other
> supplies they carry.  Maybe two weeks before actual impementation we give
> away the reusable bags and remind folks to hold onto them for future use,
>  and it can say reuse this bag often in however many languages are
> appropriate.
>
> Anyone with cash buying from a store, 90% of the time the change will pay
> for at least one bag ( and if you question that do the math)  Your change
> will always be between 1 cent and 99 cents and the distribution is
> essentially random, which means that 90% of the time it will be at least 10
> cents.
>
> Think about it another way.  Plastic bags that do not break easily if you
> have a load in them are a valuable resource, Worth 10 cents.  Put a value
> on them and people will reuse them.  Which is the whole point.  Or do we
> just give in to the craziness of consumerism?
>
> Greg gerritt
>
> From: Kim Clark <ktcxyz at cox.net>
> Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 8:14 PM
> To: Martha Fraenkel <mfraenkel at gmail.com>
> Cc: Summit Neighborhood <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Plastic Bags
>
> it’s egregious because grocery stores can buy paper bags in massive
> quantities at a reasonable cost. It’s not too much to ask that THEY pick up
> the cost.
>
> I have a small business and I have to buy paper bags in small quantities
> and they’re fairly expensive, but I would never consider purchasing plastic
> bags and nor would I ask my customers to pay for the bags I put their
> purchase in.
>
> respectfully,
>
> k
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> On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Martha Fraenkel <mfraenkel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How is it egregious?
>
> On 3/27/2018 7:52 PM, Anne Holland wrote:
>
> He’s absolutely right. The ten cent fee per bag was egregious
>
> - apologies for typos, sent from my phone
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 7:45 PM, Michael McGlynn <mmcglynn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Saying that it would inordinately affect low-income families, Providence
> Mayor Jorge O. Elorza on Monday vetoed a city ordinance amendment that
> would reduce the use of single-use plastic bags in the city that would
> require stores to charge customers no less than 10 cents per bag."
>
> https://pbn.com/elorza-vetoes-single-use-plastic-bag-ban-
> for-now-requests-more-community-engagement/
>
> --
> Thank You,
> Michael McGlynn
>
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